I, the anti-superman, have hacked into the chat group.

He could certainly stop Kevin by force, but if he wanted to persuade him, he would have to come up with a much better plan.

“I will not let you carry out the Stigmata Project,” Karl said directly.

Kevin said calmly, "You can stop me directly, of course, but if you don't have a better plan, you will eventually understand the correctness of the Stigmata Project."

He prepared some instruments to simulate the red sun, covered with lead plates, but Kevin did not want to use them unless absolutely necessary.

Red Sun alone is not enough to reliably defeat the opponent. Even if it succeeds, it means losing a powerful force that wants to fight against the Honkai.

Just as their conversation reached a stalemate, Otto spoke up.

"Gentlemen, since you have nothing to say for the time being, why don't you take this opportunity to hear my plan?"

Karl glanced at Otto curiously. He really didn't know what Otto's plan was. When he transmigrated, the game was the version where the Herrscher of Knowledge had just appeared. At that time, Otto had not revealed his true plan.

“Go ahead and say it,” Carl said.

Otto stood up and said, "As we all know, there are worlds called world bubbles in the Sea of ​​Quanta. These bubble-like worlds are easily affected by external factors and change."

World bubbles are easily created in the Sea of ​​Quanta; even Walter used his own memories to create a world bubble to test Bronya.

"My plan is to find a way to make our world like a bubble, which can be changed by human will."

"..."

Carl was somewhat surprised; wasn't this just like a reboot?

Chapter 135 What is the essence of humanity? (4000)

Karl hadn't expected Otto to try and reboot the game.

DC Marvel's superhero comics are different from other comics; they are longer, running for nearly a century, and still have sequels coming out.

This will make their reading threshold very high, and the storylines and character settings will gradually become outdated.

So, in order to keep up with the trend and attract new talent, the editors came up with the idea of ​​restarting the project.

In the context of the story, this manifests as using a major event to reconstruct the timeline and tell a similar yet different story from the beginning.

"Do you want to reconstruct our world? That sounds like a very far-fetched idea." Kevin didn't seem interested: "The smallest world might be about the size of a building, and the largest might be just a continent. They're nothing compared to our world."

Otto maintained his smile and said, "So you're not denying the feasibility of this plan, are you?"

Kevin remained silent for a while before saying, "It's just theory."

Although he is not a scientist, he has lived for so long and has learned a lot of knowledge through his surroundings, so he can understand the difficulties of this plan.

"We cannot possibly influence the entire universe. We can only try to separate our world from the universe first, and then try to integrate it back into the universe after it has been reconstructed."

"Even if we strip it away, how do you plan to safely send the altered world back into the universe? If there is even the slightest error in the spacetime parameters, our world can basically be declared over. The best outcome would be for it to become a world bubble, floating in the quantum sea."

Kevin pointed out how fanciful Otto's plan was: to change the world, one must first reduce one's own world to a bubble, but while reducing it is easy, returning it to its original state is not so simple.

Otto remained confident, stating directly, "We might not be able to perform such complex operations, but Superman is different; we now have incredibly powerful assistance."

Otto seemed to be pushing the issue onto Carl, asking him, "Mr. Superman, what do you think? Do you think reconstructing the world is a viable approach?"

Carl didn't speak up immediately; frankly, he was quite resistant to the plan.

Rebooting may seem like it would make the world a better place, but how can you be sure that you are really yourself after rebooting?

The people who are rebooted retain their original identities, but their experiences and thoughts will change.

Take himself as an example. He is now a superpower, but not entirely. Deep down, he always remembers that he is a transmigrator, not a real Kryptonian.

But if he were to be rebooted, he would most likely forget this memory.

At that time, in the eyes of others, Superba will still be Superba, but in reality, he will no longer be the transmigrator Superba, no longer him.

He is equivalent to death.

Carl's thoughts raced through his mind before he finally spoke.

"My brain works better than any computer. If I were to do the calculations, this plan would definitely work."

Carl didn't like the proposal, but he didn't object on the spot.

The short-term goal of his current conversation is to persuade Kevin to abandon the Stigmata Project; how to eliminate the Honkai can be considered later.

Kevin knew how extraordinary Carl's superpowers were, and he couldn't deny that if Carl supported the plan, the success rate would be very high.

Kevin didn't want to escalate the situation too much, so for now he could only say, "Alright, if you insist on using this plan, then use it. I will halt the progress of the Stigmata Project and have the World Serpent support you until you fail."

The human side bypassed the probing stage and achieved cooperation directly. Karl became the bridge of mutual trust between them, and his extraordinary power was the best guarantee for cooperation.

Otto, on the other hand, was completely blunt. As soon as Kevin mentioned cooperation, he made his demands.

"We need the World Snake's help right now."

“Go ahead,” Kevin said.

Otto said, "To carry out this plan, we need to observe a large amount of data from other worlds and the world bubble in the Sea of ​​Quanta. For this, the existence of the Second Divine Key is necessary. The main body of the Divine Key is with us, but the most important core part should be kept by the World Serpent."

Kevin nodded, and he quickly sent someone to deliver a key-shaped object.

This object is made of soul steel, just like Otto's current body.

The Divine Key is a weapon made from the cores of the Herrschers. In order to fight against the Herrschers, the previous civilization chose to fight fire with fire, using the cores of the Herrschers they defeated to create weapons.

These weapons are the Divine Keys, which, when activated at full power, can provide output comparable to that of a Herrscher for a short period of time.

The second Divine Key is named "Thousand Realms One Vehicle," which was created using the core of the Herrscher of the Void from a previous civilization. It can observe parallel worlds and enter the imaginary space.

This item isn't of much use to Kevin, but since they've already agreed to cooperate, he doesn't mind showing some sincerity first.

Otto took the key and gripped it tightly in his hand.

Then Carl said, "Kevin, please remember your promise. Don't think about the Stigmata Project again until the world reconstruction plan fails, even if I temporarily return to my world."

“I understand,” Kevin nodded, impressed that he could make such a rational decision even in a state of anger.

The World Serpents have become allies and will begin sharing intelligence and resources, so there's no need to worry about them doing anything behind our backs for now.

Karl and Otto embarked on their journey home.

This time he didn't fly as fast, but instead grabbed Otto's shoulder and asked in mid-air, "Bishop Otto, do you really think reconstructing the world is a good idea?"

"What's wrong?" Otto asked, looking up.

"For those who are being reconstructed, everyone will be different from the original. In a sense, isn't it as if the original version of them is already dead? The people standing here have different experiences and different memories."

"For example, if you in a parallel world are very similar to you here, would you feel like you and him are the same person?"

Karl's words silenced Otto.

In fact, for the past 500 years, he has been thinking about a question: what is the essence of a person?

His goal is to resurrect someone who has been dead for 500 years, but how can he be sure that the person he wants to be resurrected is the one he wants?

If he didn't dwell on this issue at all, he could simply clone a new body and implant that person's memories into it.

If a person is simply composed of memories and a body, then this can actually be considered a kind of resurrection, since the two people look exactly the same on the surface.

Would Otto accept this? No, he would never accept this method. He would only see it as a newly created clone, not the person he needed to resurrect.

What is the essence of humanity? Is it the body? Memories? Or the soul?

Otto could not find the answer.

Human technology is becoming increasingly advanced, and theoretically, if costs are spared, it is even possible to create two people who are exactly the same in terms of both body and memory.

Therefore, the biggest challenge in his goal is not the resurrection itself, but how he can convince himself that the person being resurrected has truly been resurrected.

Otto suddenly asked Carl, "Mr. Superman, what do you think is the essence of a person? What aspect truly represents a person? What determines who you are?"

The conversation began to veer towards philosophical themes.

If Karl were to give a serious answer to this question, he would say that the factor that determines a person is the self.

As long as you don't doubt yourself, then you are naturally yourself.

It seems a bit convoluted.

Take Carl and Spider as examples.

Carl possesses his own memories, but he has taken over the body of Superman, while Spider-Girl possesses a reincarnated body, but her past memories were all fabricated by the evil god D.

So are they Superpower and High School Evil God, or are they themselves?

It doesn't matter what others think about this issue. The two of them both think the same thing: I am who I am, and I am now in control of my own life.

Carl knew that his answer would not satisfy Otto; what Otto wanted to know was how to define others, not his own ego.

So Carl said, “I think it should be experience, a unique and continuous experience, how to grow from an infant into a responsible person, this continuous process makes a person.”

This theory was derived by Karl from Fu Hua, and it's not a truth. Everyone has their own opinion on this kind of issue, and this is just one of them.

"..."

After hearing this, Otto fell into a long silence.

Otto previously believed that if the world were to be restarted, the one resurrected would definitely be the original person.

But now that Karl said that, he suddenly felt that restarting the world was not fundamentally different from his method of creating clones.

The only difference is that the equipment for creating clones has been replaced by the world itself, instead of cold machinery.

The person who was finally resurrected had no experience whatsoever; he was merely a pseudo-person.

Like parallel universe counterparts, the two are identical in every way except for their experiences, but it is absolutely impossible to say that they are the same person.

'The method of resurrection must be changed,' Otto thought.

'If I change her past, it's as if she's no longer the Karen I know.'

'To resurrect Kallen, I must acknowledge her death, accept her past experiences, and then bring her back to life in the present!'

Otto made up his mind silently.

Then he said, "Thank you for your answer, Mr. Superman. I will be more careful when I go back. There is still plenty of time. Perhaps we will not use the Reconstruct the World plan in the end."

Karl glanced at Otto; it seemed the other man had taken his words to heart.

The reason, it seems, is probably due to the other party's perfectionist mentality, which prevents them from accepting that their resurrection plan cannot be explained by any theory.

The person Otto wants to resurrect is named Karen Kaslana, a saintess of the Church of Destiny 500 years ago, and also Otto's childhood friend.