From knock-off old-man's electric vehicles to industrial giant

Chapter 306 Step by Step Like Claws
There are no new energy vehicles with an 800V high-voltage platform in China yet.

Oh no.

It should be said that there are currently no mass-produced vehicles on the 800V platform in the world.

Last year, the Tang DM was featured in an online tweet about its "charging voltage reaching up to 800V".

However, that only applies to the charging cutoff voltage, which can reach around 750V-800V.

Battery voltage naturally fluctuates with SOC, and the difference is even greater after adopting dynamic boost technology than in ordinary new energy vehicles. It is not a true "systematic 800V" platform.

The term "high-voltage platform" often refers to the fact that all key high-voltage components of a vehicle are designed systematically according to a certain voltage level.

This includes electric drives, air conditioners, power supplies, wiring harnesses, power devices, etc.

Not only does the motor support 800V direct drive, but charging can also be maximized.

That charging power and energy consumption level are far superior to any other 400V platform currently available.

When Wang Chuanfu saw Xingchen publicly announce the "850V" platform.

My whole body trembled!

My inner emotions are surging.

He was acutely aware of the disruptive nature of this.

To know.

All of Xingchen Group's power semiconductor modules follow the same model as BYD's, being independently developed and supplied by the subsidiaries it has acquired through equity investment!
Power semiconductors are the cornerstone that determines whether voltage platforms can be significantly improved.

--broken.

What he worried about most happened.

Xingchen Semiconductor has already produced a "1200V SiC MOSFET module"!

BYD Semiconductor is currently only producing 650V and 750V power devices, and is in the exploratory stage for 1200V SiC.

Currently, there are no more than three or four companies worldwide that can mass-produce automotive-grade 1200V SiC MOSFET modules, including Infineon and STMicroelectronics!

Then look at those media professionals.

They were still staring blankly at the information that Xingchen Motors had just released.

Perhaps it's just a surprise that the number 400 has doubled to 850V.

They were completely unaware of what had actually happened.

It's all just a facade of shock!

He looked shocked!

"Too fast, far too fast... How did they even develop it?"

Wang Chuanfu muttered to himself.

Suddenly I had a feeling that I shouldn't have come.

--no.

Why is he even here to join in the fun?!
...

But if he didn't come, he felt uneasy.

Now that I'm here, I don't feel so bothered anymore, but suddenly I feel like the work has lost its meaning.

BYD's R&D investment last year was already quite substantial.

How can this gap keep widening?
Why?
why? ?

"Mr. Wang, Mr. Wang, look at this..."

Seeing that Wang Chuanfu was lost in thought, Li Shufu quickly called out to him twice.

Wang Chuanfu slowly "came back to his senses," gazing at the other party's tentative gaze, and simply nodded:

"This Starry Sky hand is too big, it's just too big..."

Li Shufu pondered.

He doesn't have a deep or professional understanding of power semiconductors and voltage platforms for new energy vehicles, but he has studied them intermittently for a year.

Gradually, I began to appreciate its meaning.

It turns out Geely may be more than one step behind. Two steps behind.

It will likely be three or four steps...

Step by step, like claws and fangs...

Li Shufu's heart began to tremble!

Our own 400V platform electric vehicles are still in the womb.

How come this star is 800V?
wrong.

850V!

Why does he need an extra 50V?
……

"An 800V platform can provide 300km of range with just 15 minutes of charging, which is the most direct way to solve the current charging and range problems..."

"We all know that for a 400V vehicle to draw 350kW, it needs 350kW/400V, which is 875A—this is very difficult in reality, and it would result in a thick, large, and hot wiring harness."

现在的充电桩根本难以做到；    如果车是800V，也就是350kW/800V=437.5A——落在 500A范围内，工程上就顺利很多了。”

As the head of technical development for Porsche's global models, Schönner boasted to Chinese state media.

Porsche has been very "forceful" in promoting the 800V system, essentially making it one of the core selling points of the Mission E (Taycan) electrification narrative.

"Our initial goal in making an electric Porsche was not only to make it fast on the track, but also to charge it quickly. I believe there is no more exciting car in this exhibition hall today."

They ended the interview shortly afterward.

Porsche's management team was also very satisfied with the media response and the level of on-site exposure.

According to Obermu, the media traffic at the China Auto Show is indeed much higher than that at the Frankfurt Motor Show.

He summoned Hong Sheng, the vice president of the China region, to accompany him, planning to inspect the various regions of the auto show after the media event, including the BMW and Tesla booths.

“There are a lot of people in China, and a lot of people buy cars. In recent years, a large part of our sales growth has come from the Chinese market. The Volkswagen Group attaches great importance to this, and Porsche, as a high-end brand, should attach even more importance to this issue.”

Obomu said with a smile,

While serving as CEO of Porsche, he also joined the management board of Volkswagen Group, holding two positions and demonstrating his serious attitude towards the Chinese market; otherwise, he would not have attended the exhibition booth to deal with media activities on the first day of the opening.

"I heard that the penetration rate of new energy sources in China during the first two months of the Lunar New Year is almost over 8%, is that right?" he asked with great interest.

From the data, this is quite impressive.

Based on Huaxia's current annual sales of over 20 million vehicles, an 8% penetration rate would already represent two million vehicles in total sales, considering that the growth rate of new energy vehicles in the previous two years had reached over 200-300%.

This trend is expected to continue, and even if it only doubles by the end of the year, that would still be three to four million in total sales.

“Yes, but in the past two years, China’s new energy vehicle market was mostly supported by mini-sized models and vehicles priced around 100,000 to 200,000 yuan. Before launching its 300,000 yuan range-extended model, Xingchen Motors, which you were interested in before, focused on that as its main business,” Hong Sheng replied.

"And before that, there was another staged accident."

The female executive from Porsche's China region briefly explained the past events.

Porsche's global headquarters was unaware of the previous "high-quality counterfeit elderly people's electric vehicles" incident.

To say that Xingchen Motors has reached its current scale is an understatement.

This is inseparable from the success of the first model.

It was that high-imitation Porsche electric car that earned them their first pot of gold, and now they can even be exhibited in the same international exhibition hall as Porsche. It's truly laughable.

"The amazing Chinese market, are their driving requirements for cars really that low?"

Upon hearing this, Obermu was both amused and exasperated, and then sighed.

"Xingchen is quite good at making batteries, but its lithium iron phosphate batteries can't compete with ternary lithium batteries in terms of density. Apart from that, I think any joint venture giant could easily close the gap if they really put their efforts into it..."

Hong Sheng continued, "Oh, by the way, they also have a concept car to unveil today. According to the promotional materials, it's a new energy supercar."

"A new energy supercar? You mean the Faraday Future FF, or something like the NIO EP9?"

After listening, Obermu asked a question in return.

These are the only two Chinese supercars that he remembers.

Porsche took notice of the NIO EP9 because it set a lap record at the Nürburgring.

However, its vehicle platform uses the racing car supply chain and is manufactured by the British RML Group. In his opinion, this is not Chinese technology, and it is no exaggeration to say that it is a rebadged supercar.

As for Faraday Future, I only came to know about it by chance because they held a launch event in Las Vegas last year and invited some foreign automotive industry investors.

The result was even more disappointing than ep9.

Pure PowerPoint presentation.

It's the kind that's full of loopholes.

Is this the level of Chinese supercars?!

Thinking back to the old man's amusing anecdote, he felt that the country's domestic car manufacturers' supply chain was somewhat laughable and perhaps not enough to support them in actually producing a supercar.

After all, China lacks high-end gearboxes, track conditions, and cutting-edge engineering technology.

If they really wanted to do it, they could only rely on rebranding or building cars based on PowerPoint presentations.

This is the current level of industry in China.

"They've made their debut, and their specific appearance and some technical details are expected to be revealed today..."

It's difficult to make a direct inference based on Hong Sheng's statement. While there's a strong demand for Xingchen in the domestic new energy vehicle industry, it's not quite qualified for the high-end car segment.

The news about Xingchen was only announced close to the auto show, and the outside world knew very little about it.

“We can go and take a look to see how this car company builds supercars. If they also bought the racing car supplier’s solution, I should be able to recognize which one it is.”

Obermu was eager to witness firsthand what kind of creature this "Chinese-made supercar" really was.

Although Tesla's all-electric supercars and Models didn't have a smooth start, they still carved out their own path and gained a following internationally, breaking some straight-line acceleration records and earning them the respect of a formal competitor.

If the domestically produced supercar unveiled today follows a similar path to Faraday Future and NIO, then he can share this "interesting story" with others when he gets back.

A country without a sports car culture, sports car DNA, or racing car supply chain.

They even insisted on claiming to be building top-of-the-line sports cars.

I can only console myself with the phrase "creating cars from empty PPTs and rebranding cars".

Isn't this the most ridiculous thing in the world?
……

(End of this chapter)