Hawks from the Land of Light are calling me a dove and an undercover agent in the chat group.

Only someone like Alexis, who has traversed numerous universes, gathered a great deal of intelligence, and encountered countless beings, is likely to be somewhat reliable in this regard.

"Then, what about those new generation ultimates?" Hibiki Yuta asked curiously again. "I always feel that they are very strange. If we say they are powerful, they are definitely more powerful than the peak of the regular Ultras, but if we say they are ultimate Ultras, they seem to be much weaker than the Heisei ultimate Ultras?"

“Uh, well…” Alexis suddenly stammered.

Even if he is indeed the "Minister of Intelligence," he has at least investigated various ruins out of curiosity while traversing multiple universes, which is why he can speak so eloquently about things like God IV.

But what could the younger generation ultimately say? He had no channels or opportunity to investigate relevant information, and his secrets were exposed in an instant!

Alexis, who had been stammering, suddenly straightened his face and scolded, "You little brat, all you do is obsess over power levels! Do you want to end up like that villainous kid in the Gaia: The Red Ball movie who loves monster power levels? That's enough!"

"Hmph, as the Minister of Justice, I have to keep a close eye on your studies, lest you go back and be abandoned by Rikka Takarada because of your poor grades, and then you'll be crying! Come on, let me ask you, what is one plus one?"

This minister is beyond saving. In an attempt to cover up his lack of information, he spoke recklessly without realizing that he had asked a question at a kindergarten level.

Alas, Minister of Justice, alas, Alexis.

No problem, even if the minister can't answer, he still has Uncle Kasa, the Ultraman himself, to answer. As an Ultraman, even if Uncle Kasa hasn't seen the New Generation Ultraman and the New Generation Finale in person, he can definitely know what the situation is.

Chat group, start!

[Coward]: "@Pro-war faction, Uncle Kasa, there's a question I've always wanted to ask, but I often forget to."

[Pro-war faction]: "Hmm? You say it."

[Coward]: "Are the final forms of the New Generation TV series considered Ultimate Ultras?"

[Dead Fish Eyes]: "I thought that as a long-time member of the chat group, you would have something profound to say by mentioning me so seriously. But it turns out to be just a stupid question about combat strength. Humph, Yuta, you have disappointed me greatly!"

[Coward]: "Just tell me if you're curious about this or not."

[Dead Fish Eyes]: "Uh... okay, I want to know too."

surrender!

Not to mention the two of them, and even the equally enthusiastic Yotsuya Miko, when this question was raised, even Bruce and Sasuke were curious to know!

Chapter 225 X: Hehehe, do you like my Rainbow Blade?

[Pro-war faction]: "The strongest force of the new generation of Olympians... well, that needs to be discussed in specific categories."

After a moment's thought, Kasa gave a detailed explanation. As for this question, coincidentally, he had indeed considered it before.

Of course, he wasn't obsessed with combat power. The main reason was that those children were the guardians who would appear in the Ultra Multiverse in the future. So when he watched them, he subconsciously calculated what level of enemies those new generation descendants could contend with, and thus concluded how many universes they could clear.

[Pro-war faction]: "Let's talk about Orb first. I can tell you for sure that, apart from the Nine Cards era at the end, no matter it was Dark Orb, Orb Origin, or Trinity Orb, it could not be considered an Ultimate Ultra."

[Pro-war faction]: "Although more than 10,000 years have passed, Seven back then was definitely much more advanced than Seven now. His hardware configuration was much stronger, but he still hadn't reached the ultimate level. He was probably at the near-ultimate level. Yet, Seven was able to hold his own against Trinity Orb in the movie, which is enough to explain the situation."

[Pro-war faction]: "Moreover, if it is a true Ultimate Ultra, it should be able to defeat a flawed Ultimate Maga Orochi single-handedly."

[Pro-war faction]: "So in my opinion, Orb's original form was close to the edge of the ultimate form, while Trinity Orb had the potential to become the ultimate form. After further training and becoming stronger, he should be able to become the ultimate form, but at least in the movie at that time, he was completely not at that level."

Hmm, now that you mention it, it's true?

Hibiki Yuta, Yotsuya Miko, and Hikigaya Hachiman all pondered it for a while and subconsciously nodded in agreement.

Think about the ultimate Ultras from the Heisei era. Every single one of them could defeat top-tier monsters, even the biggest bosses. While Ultimate Maga Orochi was indeed very powerful, consider his opponents: Super Taro, Infinite Mebius, Phoenix Mebius, or even Galactic Sword Max, Father of Ultra, or Super Gaia...

No matter how you look at it, you can't possibly beat the latter, right?

While it's a different story if the character is fully developed and without any weaknesses, the one in the TV series certainly wouldn't be able to beat the latter.

But after thinking about that, Yotsuya Miko looked at the chat group and suddenly discovered something that surprised her.

[Actor]: "Huh? Wait a minute, I've noticed a blind spot. So the Ultra Brothers from the New Generation era haven't even reached the Ultimate level yet? Taro fought Lugiel, and Seven is obviously much stronger than he was in the TV series, right?"

[Pro-war faction]: "You underestimate the Ultimate Ultra. See, this is not a simple thing. Otherwise, with the Captain and Belial's talents that surpassed the Ultra Brothers, they wouldn't have reached this level only after so many things happened."

[Pro-war faction]: "A near-ultimate can fight an ultimate to a certain extent. In your eyes, it may indeed be mistaken that the two are on the same level. But a near-ultimate is not an ultimate. In the end, the near-ultimate will inevitably lose."

Think about it, before fighting Alien Empera, how many evil gods of the universe had Father of Ultra killed, and even defeated Juda at the time, but even so he was still considered a near-ultimate.

When Belial was released from prison, if it weren't for the special stick in his hand, he would have been overwhelmed by Father of Ultra, who had old injuries, and would still have been hovering in the range of near-ultimate to complete ultimate.

Even the two of them spent so much time and battles to comprehend and improve. You can imagine how difficult it would be to reach that level without relying on external forces and solely on one's own efforts.

Even the Ultra Brothers, after ten thousand years of progress, are not necessarily the ultimate. They still need a trigger to break through the barrier between the ultimate and the non-ultimate.

Of course, Seven definitely doesn't exist, but Kassadin thinks that Taro in the future might really be the ultimate. Even if he wasn't there during the Galaxy TV era, he was probably very close. He was just one step away from taking that final step, and it wouldn't be surprising if he crossed that threshold at any time. He didn't lack any opportunity.

It can only be said that Taro truly deserves to be ranked first in the Land of Light in terms of future potential before Zero appeared. He has not slacked off and has successfully lived up to everyone's expectations of him.

[Coward]: "Hmm, if that's the case, then X's Beyond Form doesn't even have an Ultimate form, right? He still can't beat the boss-level Greeza, can he?"

[Pro-war faction]: "No, it can surpass X. Greza is different from Ultimate Maga Orochi. Greza is a very special existence compared to any other monster."

[Pro-war faction]: "Rather than saying that Beyond X is no good, it's more accurate to say that it was fortunate that Beyond X faced Greza. His Rainbow Blade has the ability to grant wishes, which is a unique feature that no other Ultimate has. He is very powerful."

[Pro-war faction]: "And in terms of raw damage output, he has undoubtedly reached the ultimate level, although it is a pity that his defense and health bar thickness are lower than normal ultimate."

At this point, Kassa sighed.

He has no prejudice against using tools to directly leap to the ultimate level. Although he is also an intermediate Ultraman, no matter how old an Ultraman gets, he will not become rigid or unable to accept new things.

He wouldn't say that the younger generation is being lazy. Think about it, if they don't take these shortcuts, how can these younger generation members in the new generation of TV have enough ability to stop those powerful figures or even bosses in the TV?

Even if he has no objection to this, taking shortcuts does have inevitable drawbacks.

Forms like Beyond X and Trinity Orb, which rely on external forces to become ultimate or possess ultimate potential, may not have problems in terms of output, but their health and defense are much worse than those that are developed gradually.

Don't be fooled by the fact that the Captain only reached Ultimate level after obtaining the Ultimate Blade. In reality, the Ultimate Blade only helped him take that step towards Ultimate. Before obtaining the Ultimate Blade, the Captain had already undergone tens of thousands of years of arduous training, growing his hexagonal shape to a near-Ultimate level.

He was only outside the Ultimate because he hadn't found the stepping stone to the Ultimate level. Therefore, he didn't take a shortcut, but rather naturally opened the door that he already had the ability to open. So, after entering the Ultimate level, he had no shortcomings.

However, characters like X and Orb haven't fully refined their abilities yet. As a result, after taking shortcuts, they only meet the requirements for output, but their defense and health bar still need a lot of refinement and growth.

Commonly known as the glass cannon.

This is very useful when you're easily defeating weaker opponents, but if you encounter an enemy with similarly high damage output, or even a true hexagonal ultimate enemy, then you're in for a tough time.

Kassa truly regrets this.

Whether it's Orb or X, they're both amazing young men with great potential.

If he can live for over ten thousand years and is not completely annihilated by overly powerful enemies like Barbatos, then he will definitely give these lads a good talking-to and elevate these glass cannons to the proper ultimate level.

Otherwise, it would be such a waste. If they take this shortcut of forced growth and then remain content with this glass cannon model, it would be a complete waste of their abilities. They are capable of going to a higher level.

[Pro-war faction]: "If Orb is a normal and promising junior, then I must say I was amazed by X."

[I am Batman]: "Is it because of the Rainbow Blade ability?"

[Pro-war faction]: "That is a factor, but it's only one of them. Before the TV series started, X was able to fight against Greeza in his normal Ultra form all the way, and finally figured out a way to take them both down. I'm not exaggerating when I say that his combat wisdom is absolutely no less than that of any Ultra Warrior in the Land of Light, including myself, Belial, and the Captain."

[Dead Fish Eyes]: "Huh? That's exaggerated? But from what I saw on TV, if X didn't wear the armor, he couldn't even beat monsters like Barton, right? Is he really that powerful?"

[Pro-war faction]: "The difference between X's performance in the TV series and his mutual destruction with Greza in the previous TV series is indeed too great... But I have a more reliable guess. I estimate that when they were mutually destroyed, not only was X physically damaged, but his years of combat experience and wisdom were also erased and weakened."

After all, their opponent is that Griza!

It's normal that X, having fought against his opponent for so long in his normal state, was forced to pay some irreparable price.

Before their mutual destruction, judging from this record, X at that time was definitely a well-rounded warrior like them, the Showa-era veterans, proficient in various sealing techniques and other auxiliary skills. Otherwise, it would have been impossible for him to hold out against Griza for so long.

Unfortunately, after their mutual destruction, they were erased and weakened. Although they didn't start from scratch, they were forced to become the new generation of Xiao Deng, which is a real pity.

[Coward]: "Now that you mention it, it seems to be true? Wow! Greza is too scary! No wonder Uncle Kasa said that Greza is the most special type of monster."

[Coward]: "Although I have always respected all Ultraman, thinking about it this way makes me respect Ultraman X even more!"

Hibiki Yuta gasped!

Although on their world's internet, some people occasionally spread far-fetched ideas about a true Cthulhu-like evil god versus Ultraman, if you think about it carefully, Greeza is a typical Cthulhu evil god, isn't it? It's indescribable, even more of a Cthulhu evil god than Gatanothor.

Even though Ultraman managed to temporarily perish together with his opponent, this ultimate life form was forced to lose some aspects of its spirit.

If it weren't for the Rainbow Blade in the TV series ending, even if they had won, X and Daichi might still have lost something.

Thinking about it that way, the Rainbow Blade is even more overpowered!

The more terrifying Griza was, the more brilliant the Rainbow Blade shone, a glimmer of hope and miracle in the eternal chaos, an extremely special and glorious light!

Meanwhile, in Gotham, Bruce's eyes sharpened, and in a flash, it was like a thunderclap!

Although X was initially a Chang'ao, Chang'ao is already a high-dimensional life form standing at the very top of the universe's biological hierarchy, and even this is affected by Griza...

Barbatos is clearly stronger and more terrifying than Greza. Who knows if his spirit and soul, as well as Clark's, will be weakened or erased when they face Barbatos in the future?

This doesn't work.

As it happens, Sasuke mentioned before that Orochimaru, who taught him, had a certain level of research on the soul. This time when he goes to the ninja world, he must gather all the knowledge about the soul. In short, he must first add eighteen layers of defense to his soul and spirit, otherwise it will be too unsafe!

[Dead Fish Eyes]: "This is really... Since surpassing X is the ultimate, then the Beta Spark Armor from the movie must also have it, right?"

[Pro-war faction]: "It existed in the movie and was very strong, definitely not your average ultimate form. But if it's released outside the movie, it might lose its boost and become weaker."

[Best Actor]: "The Milky Way?"

[Pro-war Faction]: "Galaxy..."

Kassa paused.

As for the Milky Way, well, that's a bit hard to say. Although the Rainbow Blade is already extremely special, and perhaps at certain times, there's a 0.0000000...1 probability of creating a wish fulfillment at the God IV level, it's generally not worth looking at. Just treat it as one of the most special things in the Ultimate Ultra level.

But this Milky Way... how should I put it?

You can think of him as a regular athlete; he can have a thrilling and intense battle with Zagi for an entire match before finishing him off with a devastating defeat.

You should think of him as the ultimate Ultraman. Whether in the back mountain or in the second season, he has a history of being at a disadvantage or even being beaten up when fighting regular Ultraman-level enemies, and it's not just once.

Even if you only consider him as a regular or ultimate Ultra, he is still the counterpart of Lugiel, who has the record of dolling the entire main universe of the Land of Light. Among those who were dolled, it is hard to say whether any of the Four Gods were present. Only Taro barely escaped half of the fate.

Although dollification is an effect of Dark Spark, that thing was clearly created because of Lugiel, so it's an inherent part of Lugiel and cannot be separated from it in discussion.

But if you say he's at the level of God IV, let's not even talk about how Lugiel's Dark Spark wasn't at its full strength when Ginga fought him twice. And his ability to puppet the entire main universe of the Land of Light—who knows how long he had accumulated up in the distant future to unleash such a performance? It's obvious he doesn't usually have this level of skill.

Whether it's Ginga or Lugiel, their performance fluctuates wildly. Throughout the entire Ultra series, from the Showa era to the New Generation, no one has fluctuated as much as these two.

So, even Kassadin is a little hesitant about how to calculate this.

Chapter 226 Naruto Dungeon, Pathfinder, Initiation!

[Coward]: "Speaking of the Milky Way, I've also heard Utsumi say that many people think the Milky Way might be a future Plasma Spark Tower that has come to life. Uncle Kassadin, do you think this is plausible?"

[Pro-war faction]: "Well, if you ask me, I think it's not impossible."

[Pro-war faction]: "But in short, this can only be speculation at most, and we cannot make any arbitrary conclusions. As for the birth and strength of Galaxy and Lugiel... let's put it aside for now. If I have the opportunity to see them in person in the future, we can make a decision then."