Who would study psychology if they didn't have some kind of problem?
Chapter 498 Evidence
Chapter 498 Evidence
The victim's lawyer came to the door; it doesn't sound like something that needs to be "careful" about.
Xia Tian, however, had a different view: "As I said before, this case is quite special—so the lawyer will definitely try to increase their chances of success."
"Sometimes... it can be a bit annoying. Anyway, Teacher Nan, please be careful," Xia Tian advised.
Annoying, just how annoying.
Is it the kind of gritty, shrewish troll-like troll from Better Call Soul?
Of course, such an exaggerated lawyer would be impossible to find in China. But Xia Tian's expression at this moment began to look like she was "seeing something dirty in her head," so Nan Zhuren didn't ask any further questions.
He then turned his attention to another minor point: "Speaking of which, weren't you interning in the First Civil Division? Fraud is a criminal case now, so why are you the one talking to us?"
Xia Tian's expression quickly brightened again: "Oh, our internships allow for job rotation. I feel I've learned enough in the Civil Division so far, so I want to explore criminal cases. The court clerk who came with me today is my mentor; she's very kind, and I've learned a lot from her..."
The little girl had a very serious expression.
Before Nan Zhuren could respond, Bai Qinghua's voice came from behind.
"What are you two young people talking about, laughing and chatting? Come over here, we were just talking about you."
Bai Qinghua waved to Nan Zhuren, then turned to the clerk and introduced him: "This is Nan Zhihao's consultant, my little apprentice, Nan Zhuren. It's quite a coincidence, he and the young lady who came with you met in Jiangdu, and recently they both came to work in Beidu, so it just so happened that they bumped into each other..."
"Oh?" The clerk raised an eyebrow upon hearing this, glanced at Nan Zhuren who stood tall and straight in front of her, and said, "This name sounds familiar."
So I glanced at it a second time, a third time, a fourth time...
Xia Tian smiled and replied, "Back in the Civil Court, it was Teacher Nan who helped us and even saved Meng Ting."
The court clerk looked like she suddenly realized, "Oh—that's him. Didn't he go to give a lecture with you recently?"
Summer smiled and nodded.
Although it was an official business trip, the court clerk didn't have a stern expression. Bai Qinghua's company had frequent interactions with court personnel, so it's likely that she also had colleagues here who regularly consulted with her.
After all, she had told Bai Qinghua "I've heard so much about you" as soon as she came in.
Therefore, the clerk's attitude was relatively mild, but when it came to official business, he still straightened his expression: "I just saw Xia Tian talking to you for so long, so Teacher Nan should know the general situation by now, right?"
Nan Zhuren nodded.
The court clerk continued, "This time, we mainly hope that you can provide some written assessment reports on the victim's mental injury, or other written materials. We may also need your assistance in appearing in court as an expert witness."
Nan Zhuren thought for a moment and said, "We are not qualified to issue such an assessment report; only psychiatric hospitals can provide that."
Bai Qinghua nodded in agreement: "I know some reliable mental health centers, and I can recommend them to you if the court needs them."
The clerk thought for a moment, then asked, "Doesn't the victim have any relevant reports on hand? Could you persuade him to get one?" Nan Zhuren shook his head: "My client is very resistant to this. Although his condition has improved recently and his attitude towards getting an evaluation has softened, precisely because of this, if he gets a mental evaluation now, the report results will differ somewhat from when the incident first occurred. And..."
Nan Zhuren thought for a moment and added, "Even if I could bring up the matter of a mental evaluation with the client on the grounds of 'assessing his own situation,' I can't guarantee that he would agree. So if the court is determined to get a result, it would be best if you communicated with my client."
Psychological counseling is still primarily client-based.
The clerk nodded in approval of Nan Zhuren's suggestion and added, "Can you provide proof that the victim has received psychological counseling for an extended period of time? Or your assessment of the victim's mental state? If you have audio recordings or written transcripts of conversations, that would be even better."
Nan Zhuren thought for a moment and shook his head slightly: "This also requires the visitor's consent, and you still need to communicate with my visitor first. We will not take the initiative to give the visitor suggestions on doing these things. If the visitor does not agree, I can only select some parts that can be displayed, which may still have an effect, but it will be different from the effect that the court expects. I hope you can understand."
Whether it's conducting a mental evaluation or providing consultation records or transcripts, Nan Zhuren should not be the one to initiate this request—because there is a risk of damaging the consultation relationship and interfering with the client's healing process.
Moreover, this is originally the work of the court, and Nan Zhuren has already been very cooperative to this extent.
As for the "confidentiality exception," although this matter involves the judiciary, it does not involve the visitor himself posing a risk of committing a crime or endangering society, and therefore does not fall under the category of an extreme confidentiality exception.
The clerk frowned slightly, but still nodded and said, "I understand."
After thinking for a moment, the clerk turned to Bai Qinghua and said, "There's one last thing. I wonder if Professor Bai could appear in court as a professional expert to determine, based on the criminal's testimony, whether he had a subjective tendency to cause psychological harm to the victim?"
Given the criminal acts committed by the perpetrators, this can also be relevant to sentencing.
This part of the work requires a higher level of professional qualifications. Nan Zhuren didn't meet those requirements, so Bai Qinghua had to do it.
Bai Qinghua had no reason to refuse, and nodded, saying, "I'd be happy to."
That concluded the purpose of the exchange. To avoid further trouble, the two sides didn't exchange many pleasantries, and the clerk and Xia Tian rose to take their leave.
Just at this moment—
"Dong dong dong."
There was a knock on the door.
After receiving permission, the receptionist opened the door and came in: "Boss, a lawyer surnamed Chen has come over and said he wants to talk to you. And..."
"...And he also asked if we had provided counseling to a visitor named 'Nan Zhihao,' saying he wanted to meet 'Nan Zhihao's counselor' as well." As she spoke, the receptionist glanced at Nan Zhuren, "He said Nan Zhihao was also one of his clients."
Xia Tian gave him that look of disgust again and whispered to Nan Zhuren, "This is the lawyer I told you about who's rather 'annoying'."
Nan Zhuren raised an eyebrow.
(End of this chapter)
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