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Chapter 585 Bear Trainers Don’t Need Police Badges
[Player No. 2 please speak]
"Player 1 is not a bear trainer, and neither am I. But I think 1's speech is pretty good. He seems like a good person, because he talked about a lot of things that are beneficial to good people."
"For example, he reminded us to listen carefully to the speech. If the board wolf didn't jump the bear trainer, it would be fine. But once it did, especially when the bear roared, the situation on the field would become very complicated. If you don't listen carefully, it's easy to stand on the wrong side."
"For example, he said that we should not deal with the problem of hidden wolves first. It is already a headache for good people to distinguish between bear trainers and bear trainers, and to distinguish between the wolves and the bear trainers. If the hidden wolves are added, it will be impossible to deal with it."
"We should just put the Hidden Wolf logic aside for now and think of a way to find Hidden Wolf later. I think he's right. Good guys shouldn't think about Hidden Wolf on the first day."
"He was able to make such a suggestion, and 1's speech was in a relatively relaxed state. It sounded very good to me, and I didn't feel that he had any wolfish flavor."
"So, I'll just accept Player 1 for now. Let's put it this way, as long as he's not particularly bad at talking to the police, I won't call him a wolf."
Player No. 2 is not a bear trainer either, but he readily acknowledged the person No. 1 who had just spoken in the previous position.
There is nothing wrong in recognizing that Player 1 is a good person. In fact, not only Player 2, but even Gu Feng thinks that Player 1 speaks like a good person. A wolf in the first position should not talk so much.
The most important thing is that everything Player No. 1 talks about is for the good of people, and his attitude is particularly good, giving people the impression that he is not a wolf.
Gu Feng was just thinking that it would be great if player No. 2 could jump to bear tamer. In this way, he could jump to idiot and reversely infer that player No. 2 is wolf.
As a result, player No. 2 did not jump, which made him quite disappointed.
"Actually, this is what I thought about this board. If there is a god next to the person who jumps into the bear trainer, there is no need to hide it. Just take a picture of it. This way, it can help the good people save a lot of energy."
"Maybe we'll catch up with the bear tamer with gods on both sides, so it'll be easy to stand on the side."
"But there is one thing I want to emphasize. I am not talking like this or making this suggestion to trick the God card into popping out. Don't let anyone use this to attack me and accuse me of looking for God."
"I am just expressing my personal opinion. If you think it is wrong, just pretend that I didn't say anything. If anyone uses this to make a fuss and calls me a wolf, I will definitely fight back."
"Also, the bear tamer can't take the initiative to test people like the prophet, so he can't play the police badge style. He won't be very useful with the police badge, so I suggest the witch jump out and take the police badge to lead the team."
"Some people may ask why it is the witch who jumps out to get the badge instead of the hunter? Mainly because I personally think that the witch can report an extra silver water pit, which is more advantageous than the hunter."
"And if a hunter is accidentally pushed back, he can shoot. But if a witch is pushed out, a bottle of poison will be wasted, and the good guys will probably collapse."
Player No. 2 thinks that the bear trainer on this board does not need a police badge. Since he can’t play the police badge style anyway, he might as well give the police badge to Qiangshen to lead the team.
Both hunters and witches are powerful gods, and he prefers witches to jump, because compared to hunters, witches can report one more silver water and compress the living space of the wolves.
And the hunter is not afraid of being pushed back. Even if he makes a mistake, the good guys can barely accept it. But once the witch is accidentally voted out, the good guys will have no chance of winning.
Without a guarded board, the good guys must not fall behind in their turns, as falling behind will mean losing.
Therefore, it is better for the witch to lead the team than the hunter, as she can maximize the benefits of the god card jumping out and minimize the risks.
Player No. 11’s idea is good, but whether the witch is willing to jump out and lead the team is another matter.
Especially some more cautious players will not jump out too early to be hit by the wolf knife.
"There are only 7 or 10 people under the police. Normally, one of them should shoot a wolf. After all, it is a rare situation that four wolves are on the police."
"So, my current definition of the pattern of police above police below police is three wolves above the police and one wolf below the police."
"Of course, if the statements of 7 and 10 are not like those of wolves, I will also report the four wolves to the police. Now I am just giving my personal judgment."
Player No. 2 thinks that there is a high probability that a wolf will appear among the 7th and 10th under the police. Unless the speeches of these two people are very good and neither of them looks like a wolf, then he can play with four wolves and the police.
Otherwise, he has to find a wolf between 7 and 10.
To be honest, it is a bit tough for Player 2 to talk like this, because once he says this, Players 7 and 10 will definitely become hostile towards him.
If Gu Feng is the wolf in this game and he switches to the bear tamer role, players 7 and 10 will probably tend to side with him because they don't like player 2.
2 is a wolf, so Gu Feng’s role as a bear trainer is very big.
This is experience and skill, being good at taking advantage of the subtle relationships between good people, dividing them, and thus achieving the goal of resisting being pushed back.
It’s a pity that Gu Feng is not the Wolf in this round. If he were the Wolf, he would definitely set the pace and provoke a fight, causing players 7, 10 and 2 to fight.
[Player No. 3 please speak]
"Neither 1 nor 2 are bear trainers, and I am not a bear trainer either. I was originally thinking that it would be great if player 2 could pretend to be a bear trainer, and then I could treat it as a wolf."
"Because I listened to Player 1's speech and thought he was a good guy, but not necessarily a good guy. In this case, if Player 2 pretends to be a bear tamer, then what else can he be but a tough guy."
"In the end, player 2 didn't jump, which made me a little disappointed, but it doesn't matter. It depends on whether player 4 in the back position jumps."
"If the 4th player jumps to the bear tamer, it will be much easier for me to distinguish the bear tamer. I just need to listen to whether the 5th player is a good guy or a wolf."
"If 5's speech is good, I can say that player 4 is a tough guy. On the contrary, if 5 sounds like a wolf, I can stand with 4."
"Everyone can use this method. Do the reverse inference. If you really can't tell from what the bear trainer is saying, just look at whether the people on his left and right are good guys or wolves."
Gu Feng was very frank. He stood up and spoke out his real thoughts. He was disappointed that Player No. 2 did not become a bear tamer.
It all depends on whether player No. 4 will give him a surprise. As an idiot, he definitely hopes for the 4th jump to be a bear tamer.
In this way, he can not only distinguish whether Player 4 is a wolf or a bear tamer through Player 4's speech, but also reverse the process through Player 5's identity.
One positive and one negative, the logic of the two aspects complement each other. Gu Feng believes that he will not stand on the wrong side.
If you can still stand on the wrong side after this, it would be unacceptable.
"Player No. 2 just said that there is a high probability that a wolf will appear between 7 and 10 under the police. I can't say that his judgment is wrong, but this way of playing feels too mechanical to me."
"When you see that there are two or three people under the police, you say that the police are going to shoot a wolf, so it's easy to have a preconceived idea."
"This kind of thinking will cause good people to be biased when calculating logic, and the result is that the wolf pits they point out and the good people they identify may not be particularly accurate."
"7 or 10 of the two people under the police may be good people, they may be wolves, or one is a wolf and the other is a good person. In theory, all three possibilities exist. It is best for us to listen to their statements before making any judgments."
"If Player 2 does what he did, I guess Players 7 and 10 will be disgusted and hostile to him. Isn't this just asking for trouble?"
"Having said all that, I don't mean to call Player 2 a wolf. Quite the contrary. I think he is a bit of a good guy. I am just reminding him to listen to the speech before making his own judgment. Don't jump to conclusions. The subconscious mind is very scary."
"As for why I think Player 2 is more likely to be a good person, there are two main reasons."
"First of all, Player 2 thinks the same as I do, that Player 1 is a good person, which shows that his perspective and logic are correct."
"Secondly, he dared to question the 7 or 10 police officers who were wolves. He was not afraid of offending them. His behavior seemed like a good person."
"There is no need for a wolf to cause hostility and disgust among the players under the police when he is on the police, unless he wants to lead the pace, but I don't think 2 is a werewolf who leads the pace at the moment."
Gu Feng defined the identity of player No. 2 as a preference. He didn’t know what others thought, but he thought that No. 2 didn’t look like a wolf, so he could accept it for the time being.
Of course.
The reason why he dared to talk like this was because he had a strong hand.
If he was a civilian in this game, he would not dare to acknowledge both 1 and 2 at the same time.
This will compress one's own living space, and one might end up identifying someone else and putting oneself in danger. Civilians cannot prove their own identity.
But if the trump card is an idiot, there is nothing to be afraid of. If it doesn’t work, just show your identity and the trump card will suppress everything.
Of course.
This is the worst-case scenario. Generally speaking, no one can force him to hand over his identity for self-protection.
"Player 2 said that the witch came out with the badge to lead the team. I think that's fine. The good guys don't need to suspect that he is trying to trick the witch into jumping out. I think even if the wolf wants to find the witch, he won't be so blatant."
"Besides, what 2 said makes sense. The badge is useless to the bear tamer. If the good guy doesn't stand on the right side, it may fall into the hands of the tough wolf."
"Why not let the witch come out and report the silver water pit, and finally return a vote in the last position, so that good people can feel at ease to follow the vote, the benefits are still quite great."
"Of course, if a witch doesn't want to reveal her identity and doesn't want to be stabbed at night, she doesn't have to jump. It's up to you what you think."
"Okay, that's all I want to say this round, good card, I hope you can recognize me, so be it, pass."
[Player 4, please speak] "Player 3, congratulations, you hit the nail on the head, your dream has come true, in this round I am the bear tamer."
"Now in my opinion, one of you and player 5 will definitely be a wolf, or even two wolves. But the probability of both of you being wolves is too small, so I will play according to the one wolf first."
"Actually, after listening to your speech, I think you are a bit too popular."
"First, you recognized Player 1 and Player 2. This is a very good move in my opinion. A wolf would not dare to recognize two good guys in a row, as this would reduce its own living space."
"Secondly, you talked about how the good guys can identify the bear tamer by working backwards. This idea is very valuable and will help the good guys stand on the side and look for the wolf."
"From this point of view, your mentality is good and you don't have any wolfish taste."
"Finally, you said you hoped the bear trainer would drive next to you. This shows that you are not afraid of being tested. Maybe you pretended to be like that, but I think you are confident and not afraid of being the focus."
"Combining the above three points, I think your good face is better than your bad face."
"In this case, player 5 is very likely to be a wolf. Although I haven't listened to his speech yet, to be honest, I already want to mark him as a wolf."
Player No. 4 stood up and jumped into the bear trainer position, teasing Gu Feng that his dream had come true, and the bear trainer was really driving next to him.
For 4, the bear roared, which means that there must be a wolf among 3 and 5, and at least one wolf. Theoretically, it is not ruled out that there are two wolves.
But because of Gu Feng's speaking preference, he naturally focused on player No. 5 who had not spoken yet.
Let’s put it this way, unless 5 can reveal his identity, he wants to beat 5 Biao Wolf, because he really doesn’t want Pan Gu Feng to be a wolf.
4 I think Gu Feng might have an identity.
If not, how could Gu Feng dare to directly admit that 1 and 2 were both good people?
Although it is only a temporary recognition, it is not something that a commoner would dare to do.
Therefore, in the eyes of player No. 4, Gu Feng is very likely a god.
After a pause, player 4 said, "I don't know if the wolf will pretend to be a bear tamer with me. Maybe, maybe not. After all, my appearance can only prove that there is a wolf among players 3 and 5, but it cannot prove which of them is the wolf."
"So, the wolf team can just stay cowardly and let 3 and 5 go for the PK, and then they can rush to vote and rush out as many good guys as possible, and then kill me at night. It's okay to play like this."
"I feel like Player 5 will try to pretend to be a bear tamer, because Player 3 has made a good speech and he won't be able to beat him."
"In this case, either there is a wolf jumping bear tamer on the outside position to scoop him up, making good people doubt my identity, but this will expose one more wolf, which is not very cost-effective."
"Or he could pretend to be the bear tamer himself, which would prevent his wolf teammates from pretending to be bear tamers again. While protecting himself, he could also exploit the identity of player No. 6."
"After all, the good guys have to recognize Player 5 as the bear tamer. We, Players 4 and 6, are both suspects. Even if I'm a wolf, Player 6 can't completely let it go, right?"
"In other words, if Player 5 pretends to be a bear tamer, he can kill three birds with one stone. He can protect himself, let the wolf team expose one less wolf, and exploit the identity of Player 6. It's perfect."
"So, if 5 jumps into bear taming later, you can just target the wolf and fight. You won't go wrong."
"Actually, from my point of view, I hope that 5 will not confront me as a bear tamer. It would be better if I can show my identity, such as a hunter, an idiot or something."
"Then I don't need to think too much. I can just call player 3 a wolf. Although I recognize his speaking preference, his speech can be deceptive after all, but his cards can't."
Player No. 4 is right. In the game of Werewolf, the trump card suppresses everything after all. No matter how well you talk, you are not as good as others who reveal their identity trump card.
Just like now, in the eyes of 4, the wolf will definitely appear among 3 and 5. It is good for him to just listen to Gu Feng's speech, but if player No. 5 directly jumps to a hunter, then no matter how well Gu Feng talks, it will still be a wolf.
In fact, we can tell from the speech of player No. 4 that he really doesn't want player 5 to fight against him as a bear tamer, because then the good guy will have no advantage.
If 5 didn't jump to be a bear tamer, the wolf team would have to sell an extra wolf if they wanted to distract the good guys' attention. Then he would have found two wolves on the first day, which would be beneficial to the good guys.
Therefore, player No. 4 gave the good guys a heads-up in advance that the bear tamer with 5 jumps must not be trusted.
But what he says is one thing, whether good people believe him or not is another matter.
"As for the police badge, as you said just now, there is no such thing as a police badge for bear trainers. After all, I can't take the initiative to test people."
“But if no other god card comes out to get the police badge, I still hope that the 7th and 10th under the police can give me the ticket.”
"If a strong god jumps out from the external position, you can vote for the police badge for him, but the bottom line is that even if I can't get the police badge, I must not let the police badge fall into the hands of the wolf."
"I will treat all of you who vote for me as good people. Even if you are a bad guy, as long as you are willing to hook, I will dare to recognize you as a good person."
"As for those who have submitted the bandit ticket, I will definitely be more suspicious. Although I won't beat them up, I will definitely put them in the wolf pit."
"Anyway, it's just the two of you under the police. Player 2 is right. There is a high probability that one of you will be a wolf. You can choose one of the two for happiness. If you are a wolf, can you hide your charge? You can't hide it. So hit the barb."
"Okay, that's all I have to say for now. The bottom card is the bear tamer. The first, second, and third players sound like good guys. Player number 1 is a very bad guy. That's it. We've passed."
[Player No. 5 please speak]
"Nice chat, Player 4. Although you suspect that I might be a wolf, I must tell you that I am not a wolf. You don't have to worry about me stalking you or anything like that. You're just overthinking."
"Not only will I not fight with you, on the contrary, I think you are most likely a bear tamer, and Player 3 is a wolf."
Player No. 5's remarks stunned everyone on the field.
Before this, the good guy thought that 5 would attack 4, which was a tough move, and he himself was a good guy, so he went to stand on the side and become the bear tamer in the back position.
Or he could just jump out himself. Carrying a bear on his back is very advantageous to the wolf. Even though he jumps out under the attack, the good guys still have to recognize him as a bear trainer.
Because this board is different from other boards, it is hard to say who the prophet is on other boards, but on this board, when the bear roars, the wolf knows that the bear trainer is next to him.
In this way, it would be much easier to fight the bear trainer.
Therefore, it’s okay for player No. 5 to jump from the spot.
But he has no hostility towards Player 4. Instead, he believes that Player 4 is a bear trainer. This is interesting.
"I know you will be surprised why Player 4 called me a wolf, but I have no hostility towards him. Actually, it's not that I don't have hostility. I just think he talks like a bear tamer."
"The logic he used, the perspective he showed, and the way he spoke gave me the feeling that he was less likely to be a fake and more likely to be a real bear tamer."
"Then I would naturally say that player 3 is the wolf. Player 4 said that player 3 has a preference for speaking, but I don't think so."
"He said he hoped a bear trainer would drive near him, and even said he was waiting for a bear trainer for 4 jumps. Don't you think that's a bit of a cover-up?"
"And 3 also recognized the front position 1 and 2, but he disagreed with the idea of 2nd player to open a wolf under the warning. Since he disagreed, there was a disagreement."
"How did player 3 recognize player 2 when there was a disagreement? There is obviously something wrong."
"I have a feeling that player 2 might be Silver Water. Player 3 doesn't dare to fight player 2, so he forces player 2 to take over in order to win the favor of the witch."
Player No. 5 hammered Gu Feng hard. It was obvious from his posture that he wanted to beat Gu Feng into a wolf and then stand on the side of Player No. 4.
This made Gu Feng very confused. Even if player No. 4 was having a good chat, he shouldn't let player No. 5 stand by him like that, right?
Anyway, 4 had just beaten him, but this guy not only did not have any hostility towards 4, but also thought that 4 was a bear tamer. How could he have the courage to talk to him like that?
A thought suddenly flashed through Gu Feng’s mind. Could this 5 be a hidden wolf?
Assuming that 5 is the Hidden Wolf, he knows that player No. 4 is a tough guy, but 4 doesn't know that 5 is the Hidden Wolf, so 4 is a tough guy and wants to use 5 as a counter-attack. Player No. 5 has no choice but to forcibly admit that 4 is the bear tamer and point the finger at Gu Feng.
Theoretically, this possibility is entirely possible, but then again, even if the No. 5 player is a hidden wolf, why does he have to stand next to his wolf teammate? Wouldn't it be better to just play a hook and stand next to the bear tamer in the back position?
The key point of the Hidden Wolf card is the hook, and charging is definitely not cost-effective.
Unless he wanted to pass a message to his Wolf teammates in this way, if that was the case, we can only say that 5 was too tough.
The current situation is that Gu Feng is not sure whether 5 is a good guy or a wolf. He can only say that 5 has a strong bandit side, but he cannot rule out the possibility that this guy is a good guy who thinks he is smart and mistakes 4 for a bear trainer.
"Anyway, I will temporarily side with player 4 when I am on the police. In my eyes, player 3 is a wolf. It depends on whether there is anyone else in the back position who will jump to the bear tamer position. If there is, I will decide whether to change my side after the police are off."
"But to be honest, even if 4 is a fake, I think 3 and 4 are probably twin wolves. There is one thing I must say, we can't subconsciously assume that both sides of the fake wolf are good people."
"What if 3 or 4 wolves are the identities? What if player 3 is the hidden wolf? These are all possibilities, and we have to think about them."
"As for Player 1 and Player 2, I have accepted them for now, especially Player 1. His speech was quite good, so he should be a good person without a doubt."
"You don't have to ask me what my identity is. I'm sure I won't take pictures when I'm a police officer. When I'm under the police, if only player 4 is the bear tamer, I'll take pictures of my identity and PK with player 3."
"If there are more bear trainers jumping behind, whether the police will take his identity photo or not will depend on whether I continue to side with player No. 4."
"Okay, that's all I have to say for now. Good guy cards, I'm on the side of player 4 for now. The 3rd is most likely a wolf, that's it, passed."
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